Hi and Assalamualaikum everyone!
I have seen some dissertations that include ethical approval and some don't. When is it necessary and when is not to have it in your procedure? Can anyone clarify ?
Thanks!
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What do you mean by ethical approval? Do you mean consent from the informants??
- Lateef
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Subject: Re: [QualitativeForum] ethical approval
Assalamualaikum! Nice to hear from you again!
I was asked about this matter by my committee member from the Medical Faculty UPM. It seems that as far as UPM medical faculty is concerned, all dissertation projects are required to be submitted to a research ethics committee. Is there such policy for our Faculty? Since my subjects will be cancer survivors, will this be an issue? I need confirmation. Maybe others in this forum who are well advanced in their research can advise me on this matter. Thanks!
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Waalaikumsalam,
Our faculty has no such committee that I am aware of. So does that mean that your committee member, since s/he is with the med. school, wants you to submit the thesis to the Medical School's ethics committee? Or was s/he just asking if our Faculty has one? Doesn't Prof. Mazanah know if we have one?
You might just want to explain to her/him that as a qualitative research study, all informants will be asked to sign formal consent forms to participate in the research, etc. I have attached an example of one such form for you.
Other than that, I'm not sure...
wassalam
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Re: [QualitativeForum] ethical approval
Thanak you Dr Lateef,
Now that you've explained, I suspect that the query must have come from quantitative school/thinking. I will double check. Thanks again! By the way I read your article on Islamic personality on Islamic psychology website.It was a really good piece - refreshing!
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Re: ethical approval
Regarding the ongoing discussion, this is what azamri has to say:
I think it is not the question of quanti vs quali. First you have to
understand that ethical approval is your requirement to get access to
participants the organisation is responsible for. Secondly, whether
to have ethics committee approval, it depend on your sampling plan.
I agree that for quali research, it is naturalistic, therefore
informed consent from participant is suffice. Ethics committee
consent is only relevant to experimental research to ensure the
subjects are protected. However, if you wish to involve participants
who come under the organisation's responsibility, whether your
research is quali or quanti, approval from ethics committe is a must.
I elaborate the first one first. I'm talking about teaching hospitals
such as HUKM, UMC. Ethics committee approval is an institutional
requirement to all research to be done at there, quali or quanti.
Secondly about sampling plan. Sampling is bounding the collection of
data. Sampling in quali involve two actions: set the boundaries, and
create a frame to help you uncover your inquired phenomenon (Miles
and Huberman, 1994, p. 270. In the case of cancer survivors,
my "intimate" understanding of their population tells me that two
sampling frames are possible: through teaching hospitals and support
group. If my sampling plan was the first one, then i need to get the
approval from the respective hospitals. In your case, if you are to
choose participants cared by Serdang Hospital, then approval from
ethics committee of Serdang Hospital need to be obtained. But i chose
the later, which means that i dont have to worry about approval from
ethics committee, the consent form is enough. But if you are to
choose the former, dont be scared, its more like a formality to
register what you are going to do. Its not like an interrogation
session where you will be grilled for hours.
Some people thought that there is no sampling in quali. Its not true.
Sampling in quali is as important as in quanti. It helps you to set
boundary to your consclusion. To do that, build your intimate
understanding of your inquired penomenon. Then you would be able to
understand the make up of the population. Then you would be able to
determine the appropriate sampling frame. I believe that Bogdan and
Biklen's criteria of having experience the phemomenon and able to
articulate the experiences are a bit too open. I would like to end my
note here with MH's illustration of sampling: Why you have to do
sampling (even in quali)?, because "you cannot study everyone,
everywhere doing everything".
azamri
I have seen some dissertations that include ethical approval and some don't. When is it necessary and when is not to have it in your procedure? Can anyone clarify ?
Thanks!
---------------------------------------------
What do you mean by ethical approval? Do you mean consent from the informants??
- Lateef
---------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [QualitativeForum] ethical approval
Assalamualaikum! Nice to hear from you again!
I was asked about this matter by my committee member from the Medical Faculty UPM. It seems that as far as UPM medical faculty is concerned, all dissertation projects are required to be submitted to a research ethics committee. Is there such policy for our Faculty? Since my subjects will be cancer survivors, will this be an issue? I need confirmation. Maybe others in this forum who are well advanced in their research can advise me on this matter. Thanks!
----------------------------------------------
Waalaikumsalam,
Our faculty has no such committee that I am aware of. So does that mean that your committee member, since s/he is with the med. school, wants you to submit the thesis to the Medical School's ethics committee? Or was s/he just asking if our Faculty has one? Doesn't Prof. Mazanah know if we have one?
You might just want to explain to her/him that as a qualitative research study, all informants will be asked to sign formal consent forms to participate in the research, etc. I have attached an example of one such form for you.
Other than that, I'm not sure...
wassalam
------------------------------------------------
Re: [QualitativeForum] ethical approval
Thanak you Dr Lateef,
Now that you've explained, I suspect that the query must have come from quantitative school/thinking. I will double check. Thanks again! By the way I read your article on Islamic personality on Islamic psychology website.It was a really good piece - refreshing!
----------------------------------------------
Re: ethical approval
Regarding the ongoing discussion, this is what azamri has to say:
I think it is not the question of quanti vs quali. First you have to
understand that ethical approval is your requirement to get access to
participants the organisation is responsible for. Secondly, whether
to have ethics committee approval, it depend on your sampling plan.
I agree that for quali research, it is naturalistic, therefore
informed consent from participant is suffice. Ethics committee
consent is only relevant to experimental research to ensure the
subjects are protected. However, if you wish to involve participants
who come under the organisation's responsibility, whether your
research is quali or quanti, approval from ethics committe is a must.
I elaborate the first one first. I'm talking about teaching hospitals
such as HUKM, UMC. Ethics committee approval is an institutional
requirement to all research to be done at there, quali or quanti.
Secondly about sampling plan. Sampling is bounding the collection of
data. Sampling in quali involve two actions: set the boundaries, and
create a frame to help you uncover your inquired phenomenon (Miles
and Huberman, 1994, p. 270. In the case of cancer survivors,
my "intimate" understanding of their population tells me that two
sampling frames are possible: through teaching hospitals and support
group. If my sampling plan was the first one, then i need to get the
approval from the respective hospitals. In your case, if you are to
choose participants cared by Serdang Hospital, then approval from
ethics committee of Serdang Hospital need to be obtained. But i chose
the later, which means that i dont have to worry about approval from
ethics committee, the consent form is enough. But if you are to
choose the former, dont be scared, its more like a formality to
register what you are going to do. Its not like an interrogation
session where you will be grilled for hours.
Some people thought that there is no sampling in quali. Its not true.
Sampling in quali is as important as in quanti. It helps you to set
boundary to your consclusion. To do that, build your intimate
understanding of your inquired penomenon. Then you would be able to
understand the make up of the population. Then you would be able to
determine the appropriate sampling frame. I believe that Bogdan and
Biklen's criteria of having experience the phemomenon and able to
articulate the experiences are a bit too open. I would like to end my
note here with MH's illustration of sampling: Why you have to do
sampling (even in quali)?, because "you cannot study everyone,
everywhere doing everything".
azamri
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